Question:
What's the difference between the quality of an Epiphone EJ-200 and a Gibson EJ-200 guitar?
KitKat
2012-10-06 00:01:19 UTC
Someone said although they look almost identical, It takes several months to build a Gibson, but only takes a few days to build an Epiphone. Can someone please elaborate? Thanks
Thirteen answers:
KrudKutter
2012-10-07 10:55:05 UTC
The Gibson J-200 is one of my favorite acoustic guitars - while Gibson acoustics have not caught on like their electrics, the J-200 is one model almost everyone would agree is a killer guitar.



However - anyone who says 'they're pretty much the same" or similar has no clue what they're talking about, so let me try to lay it out for you. Epiphone used to be a USA-made brand of guitar that competed directly with Gibson. In 1957 they were purchased by the same parent company that owns Gibson, in order to eliminate the competition. I'll spare you the rest of the history (check it out on Wikipedia) but basically since 2002 practically all Epiphone guitars are built in a factory that Gibson opened in Qingdao, China. While that factory is not AS-guilty of the heinous child-labor sweatshop tactics of so many Chinese "knock-off" companies..conditions there are still not great by USA standards, and are totally different than workers would experience in a Gibson facility in the USA.



You asked about quality: The real Gibson J-200 is an heirloom quality, hand-built instrument... the Epiphone is a mass-produced plywood copy. You'll pay more for the CASE of a a real J-200 than you will for the Epiphone version of the guitar. Keeping in mind that a Gibson J-200 (not EJ - the "E" is for Epiphone) retails for around $4000 ($5000 list) and an Epiphone EJ-200 retails for around $200 (you could own TWENTY of them for the same money) - so you'd expect there to be some substantial differences.



Construction: Gibson J-200s are largely hand-built and adjusted by the luthiers working in Gibson's Montana and/or Nashville custom shops. They produce a fairly small number of guitars per year.



Epiphone EJ-200s are built almost entirely by mass production techniques and unskilled labor (in China - often CNC and other computer-robotic manufacturing is not used, because human labor is so plentiful. . you'll have 1000 people sitting there, each doing one small operation over and over - like a machine would do except without the actual machine. To be fair about this - Epiphone's plant is much more automated than many Chinese manufacturers. But bottom line, the EJ-200 is a mass-produced stamp-them-out-by-the-millions kind of guitar. There is simply no other comparison beyond the shape/size that you can make.



Wood: The Gibson uses solid AAA (best) Sitka spruce top and AAA USA Curly Maple for sides and back. The Epiphone uses a lesser-grade of spruce for the top and maple PLYWOOD sides and back.



Fit/Finish: J-200s are meticulously hand-finished... bindings, fret ends, etc. will be fine-tuned, polished, etc. as you would expect from a $4000 guitar. EJ-200 are pretty much all machine-finished - while not "bad" , again you wouldn't expect the same care from a $200 guitar.



Hardware: J-200s use real adjustable-tension Grover tuners, If you were to buy them separately ,they cost around $75 (almost half the price of the whole Epiphone guitar) for a set of 6. The EJ-200 uses made-in-china die-cast tuners that look like Grovers, but are nothing like them. They're not terrible - but again, you get what you pay for.



Both the Epiphone and the Gibson can be set up to be easy-to-play... I've played both and the playability of the Epiphone was really good right out of the box (literally - they come in a cardboard box) .



Bottom line - the Epiphone guitar is great for students, campfires, class trips, and playing live gigs where you wouldn't want to bang up your $4000 Gibson. They play and sound decent for the money. If it gets damaged it's not the end of the world. It's a good value.



OTOH, a 'real' J-200 is something special that you hold on to and pass down to your grandkids... like all "real" Gibsons, the best examples appreciate in value over time - you can find examples of vintage (pre-1980) J-200s going for $10-12,000 or even more today.



Hope that helps.
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2012-10-06 04:34:38 UTC
A custom builder may take months to build a guitar by hand, but no factory could stay in business that way. Gibson production is in fact highly automated and I doubt it takes more than a few days (even Martin doesn't take much longer than that, with more operations done by hand). The main difference is that the Gibson J-200 (EJ-200 is the Epi version) is made in America of all solid woods, while the EJ-200 is an imported copy with a solid spruce top and plywood back/sides. All other things being equal, solid wood gives better tone, but I'd hate to make any predictions, since I've seen some truly horrible J-200's and have never played an EJ-200.



P.S. Come to think of it, I'm not absolutely sure the J-200 is entirely solid wood these days. Gibson has had legal problems with the importation of rosewood and ebony greater than a certain thickness in the last couple of years and has been using laminated fretboards and bridges on some models.
NoTea4Me
2015-09-10 19:44:25 UTC
Those that insist the Epiphone EJ-200SCE is anything less than stellar hasn't played them.



And BTW... They aren't made in China, they are made in Indonesia at Epiphone's own plant, by luthiers with a minimum of 10 years experience. The plant in Korea moved there.



The Gibson J-200 simply isn't $3400 better than it's Epiphone brother.



Don't believe it? Go A+B them. I did.



These Indonesian made Epi's are built beautifully. The inlays are precise, the binding perfect, Grover tuners - same ones Gibson used. Frets are excellent.



In short, to get a good Gibson J-200, one has to wade through a few to find the gem. The Epiphones are consistently great.



So, unless you are a touring professional that needs a high end headstock... keep in mind you can buy 9 to 1... and the esonic2 system is a huge plus! Stereo jacks that combine with the Nanomag (neck) pickup, and the Nanoflex (bridge) pickup that you blend means endless tone options.



Compare them both. Thank me later.
white
2016-09-30 12:06:09 UTC
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Randy F
2012-10-06 20:06:19 UTC
For the money buy the Epiphone. They seem to out perform the Gibson so much. It is my understanding from Gibson that the Epiphones are cut out overseas and sent to the US, constructed here and sold. In every test I've seen Epiphone always does as well or better than Gibson. I don't like the look of the j or ej 200. If I wanted a finger style guitar I buy the Epiphone Masterbilt series finger style.
Genevieve
2015-08-06 19:59:40 UTC
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RE:

What's the difference between the quality of an Epiphone EJ-200 and a Gibson EJ-200 guitar?

Someone said although they look almost identical, It takes several months to build a Gibson, but only takes a few days to build an Epiphone. Can someone please elaborate? Thanks
GWB
2014-08-17 19:41:56 UTC
My Epi EJ220 was made in 2011 in CHINA it has 14-1 Grover tuners , solid sitka top about 15-19 arrow straight grain lines per inch. The paper work says the sides and back are solid rosewood and the neck is a dove tail glued joint mahogany with ebony fingerboard. I did have to file and polish the frets. The action was set up by Gibson in Tn. according to the paperwork. So I am happy to have a guitar that plays well and I don't live in fear of outlaws when camping

I also have an old Gibson J50 I keep at home and no one but me picks her up and a d3 Taylor that sustains for what seems like 30-40 seconds, I strongly suggest everyone stop worrying about made in USA & give the Chinese craftsmen their due along with the Japanese , Koreans , Mexicans & even the Canadians . They all got some mad skills.
Teddy Barrett
2012-10-06 08:30:47 UTC
The grade of wood. Gibson may be a solid top the epiphone may be laminate, the quality of the inlay, the deminsions may be different, the epiphone is finished in polyurethane where as teh gibson is laquer finished. tuning keys not quite as good on an epiphone. actually not a whole lot but ultimately the gibson does sound better possibly plays better as well. HOWEVER do not overlook the outstanding value an epiphone presents. They are excellent guitars with a comparative sound to the gibson.
mark
2016-01-10 20:27:58 UTC
The EJ200NA I have was made in Korea this guitar sounds real good not just good. My Gibson didn't have the quality of sound the EJ 200 NA has. If I can find another one made in Korea I'd buy it. My son can't wait for me to, well move on if you know what I mean.
Cornelius
2014-03-15 09:09:30 UTC
Re KitKat's post-very informative.I just got one of the Epiphone EJ200CE and it looks as if it does have the Grover tuning pegs, maybe they've decided to put them on.I think I was misled into thinking it was solid body though- I'm not sure if the top is in fact solid as the lacquer effect seems to go around the edge of the soundhole...does anyone know how to tell? I found a site http://www.guitardaterproject.org/epiphone.aspx

for checking the s/n but it just give the date and place it was built (Indonesia 2013)
SunLight
2015-12-06 23:16:27 UTC
Gibson are pure garbage, literally. Epiphones are much better built because they are built over seas with modern computer driven machines. Gibsons are built by haughty hillbillies (think Jed Clampet and Granny.... in Montanna who demand $100 and hour to make them. They probably ha whiskey bottle under the work tables by the looks of the sloppy, glue spattered, poorly finished trinket boxes. Gibson s woulden t even make a proper bird house for the yard without animal cruelty stepping in.
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2015-08-04 11:51:16 UTC
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