Question:
Good professional level violins?
Jesse
2009-04-04 14:28:29 UTC
I'm a graduating High School student who plays in Varsity Orchestra, but I'm going on to a college orchestra in a few months and since I won't be using the school violin rentals anymore I thought I might just go out and buy a good one (that's upgraded from the "high school quality".

I do plan to keep playing throughout my life as something more than a hobby, but not my actual career. I just don't think I could live without playing a violin (I felt weird not playing one for a few days).

What makers out there make very high-end violins? Is there any things I can look out for in finding a good one? I just don't want that "airy, stringy" tone that our instruments had. I want a very rich and deep sound.

I pretty much need to be walked through step by step in finding one.

Thanks!
Three answers:
anonymous
2009-04-04 16:20:00 UTC
One of the most common beliefs in choosing a violin is that the more you pay the better the tone. This is unfortunately not true. There are some people who get a fine sounding violin for a small amount of money and there are some who spend a lot of money for a poor sounding violin.



There are many criteria in evaluating a violin. Unfortunately tone is not typically near the top. For the most part here is the list of characteristics of a violin that determine price, in declining order of importance:



>The Maker

>Country of Origin

>Condition

>Age

>Physical Beauty

>Tone

>Investment Potential

>Size and Arching

>Others not necessarily in order are: responsiveness, evenness, arching (flat as opposed to high), wolf tones or lack of them, clarity of tone, correct measurements -- particularly for the 4/4 size.



The Maker

Stradivari made some fine sounding violins, some mediocre sounding violins and some poor sounding violins. A violin is made of wood. Each piece of wood vibrates differently. The spruce top is the sounding board. Spruce is generally considered to the be best material for the sounding board of a string instrument. It is the sounding board for the piano, harpsichord, guitar, lute, etc. Each piece of spruce vibrates differently.



In addition to the spruce top, the back, sides, blocks, even the fingerboard vibrate. It is impossible to duplicate this combination of vibrating parts from one instrument to another. Therefore don't let the name intimidate you when trying a violin. If it doesn't sound well don't feel guilty if you don't hear the magical quality that is supposed to be in there.



Over and over I hear the complaint that "I have this Vuillaume, Gagliano or Scarampella, etc. The only problem I have with it is it doesn't sound well". I have seen any number of fine violinists trade-in a fine sounding violin for a big name instrument that doesn't sound. They think there is some sort of magical quality in the expensive violin that just needs some coaxing out, or a new bridge, soundpost, bass bar, etc.



Country of Origin

Most people think the Italian instruments are the best. The Italians have a few advantages here. The violin was invented in Italy and the earliest music for the violin comes from Italy. Also the Italians have rarely gone in for commercialism in violin making like France and Germany, for instance. Chances are if the violin is Italian it was made by one person or if the person had some reputation, by apprentices, assistants or students in a small enterprise supervised by the person whose name is on the violin. "Handmade" is the catchword here as opposed to machines or many hands making the same violin.



Condition

With an older violin condition becomes very important. A violin with a lot of cracks and repairs may sound well when it is purchased, but changes in the weather, bumps, lack of humidity or too much humidity can cause structural or tonal probems. Cracks can open, form, the neck can drop, buzzes can occur and endless problems can result from many repairs. I never send a violin to Puerto Rico or Alaska that has any structural repairs because of the extremes in their climates.



Age

There is no question that all things being equal, an old violin will sound better than a new one. With age the wood hardens and becomes more resonant. If the violin has a soft varnish age will make the varnish harden also. However, a new violin is much more preferable to an old violin with many repairs. A good new violin will improve with age. (On the other hand a new violin with plates that are too thin may deteriorate with age). All in all, the condition of an old violin must be weighed with the advantages of the structurally perfect condition of a new violin.



Physical Beauty

If I line up 5 or 6 violins for a customer to try, the first one he or she usually goes for is the best looking one. Quite often people will zero in on a violin if it is highly flamed or if it has a one piece back. The flaming has little to do with the tone. Even if I ask the person before he or she tries the instruments "does the appearance matter?" and they say "all I want is a beautiful tone" they will gravitate to the best looking instrument. It is difficult to enjoy a meal which may taste great but looks horrible. There are many modern makers who take great pains to make violins look like an old Italian masterpiece. If there is a connection with the physical beauty and the tone, it has to do with how much time and money the maker has put into the instrument. However, the antiquing doesn't make the violin sound better. The choice of wood for its beauty as opposed to its acoustical properties will be detrimental to the sound.



Tone

There are hundreds of adjectives that describe the tone of a violin: "warm, lyrical, rich, clear, deep, smooth, brilliant, and on and on. The most important one though, is power. A good violin will be loud. Power is measurable in concrete terms. Over and over I ask these hypothetical questions: Why do you think an orchestra has 35 violins and 3 flutes? The answer is the flute produces the power of 10 violins. Have you ever seen a violin drown out a piano? Have you ever seen in a violin concerto, the soloist drowning out the orchestra? Other tonal characteristics are of lesser importance such as evenness, responsiveness and physical comfort, etc. A violin can never be too loud. It is the only instrument in the orchestra (other than the viola) where the tone comes out of a hole three inches from the left ear and aimed directly at the ear. It sounds much louder to the player than to the audience. A flute blows the tone out away from the players ear, as does the clarinet, trumpet etc. If you have been playing on a violin with a sweet and warm quality under the ear, a violin with a strong tone will make you jump when you first try it. However within one hour you can get used to it and going back to a violin with a soft tone will leave you frustrated.



Investment potential

A good Italian and or French violin with papers from a reputable authenticator can be a good investment. In the past 50 years or so the prices on these instruments have increased dramatically. However, if you are a player trying to make a career a violin that has the type of tone that you want should outweigh the investment potential. For a collector or an amateur this might not be the case. I tell customers that after you play a recital and nobody can hear you you can't turn to the audience and say "but the violin has great investment potential"!!!



Size and Arching

Correct measurements are very important. Sticking to standard measurements will help greatly, particularly for intonation if you play on more than one violin. (For instance you have one violin for solo work and another for teaching, playing outdoors, etc.) Most people don't like high arching as a violin with high arching will tend to have a nasal quality and not produce the power of a good violin with relatively flat arching.



Additional Considerations



It is very important to deal with a violin shop as opposed to a store that sells other musical items such as flutes, guitars, keyboards, etc. Bowed string instruments need people with specialized training and focus who can do proper set-ups, select the best strings for the individual instrument, and generally maximize a stringed instrument's potential. An expensive instrument can sound and behave as badly as a student instrument if it is not properly set-up. Since a violin shop is so specialized most string players in a particular city will usually know about and recommend the best shops.
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anonymous
2009-04-04 14:41:46 UTC
I don't know how much you want to spend, but I would recommend the HC602 from Howard Core:



http://beststudentviolins.com/Professional.html#proviolins



This instrument was discussed in "Strings" magazine and is a very nice violin.


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