Question:
need help with pickups?
Travis Chuning
2011-07-27 18:57:09 UTC
i recently tuned my schecter damien 6fr down to B standard from C standard but im not getting a very nice tone it is very fuzzy like a distorted bass guitar except it sounds like trash i thini its the pickups they are EMG H4/H4A combo it's probably the pickups since the amp sounds fine and the guitar itself isnt effed up

but anyways i need a good pickups that maintain clarity even with low tuning preferably something under 100$ a peice i cant do actives

ive read good things about duncan distortions, invaders, and 59's but idl if 59's r good for that tunings
Three answers:
Ken C
2011-07-28 06:50:41 UTC
I don't think you would be happy with the '59's. They not very high output (great sounding for blues and classic rock, though).



You probably want to look at a Duncan SH-8 (Invader), SH-11, or maybe even an SH-4 (Jeff Beck model) for your bridge. If you want something cleaner for the neck, the '59 would work, as would the Alnico II. These are all about $80 each.



Good luck.



Greetings from Austin,TX

Ken
Adam D
2011-07-28 19:15:37 UTC
It's a combination of the pickups and the guitar probably never being setup for the lower tuning. Your strings are probably really slinky, which doesn't provide a good tone.



I'm wondering why you can't do Active pickups? It would sound great if you installed Seymour Duncan Blackouts. Other than that, I prefer DiMarzio passive pickups over Seymour Duncan passive pickups, especially for lower tunings. I would go with the Crunch Lab and Liqui Fire, or possible the D-sonic, or just go with the classic Super Distortion (or the newer Super 3, which is the Super Distortion, but with more output to give a more modern tone).



The Seymour Duncan '59 is for the bridge pickup and won't really handle the lows. It's best paired with the JB in the bridge, but to me, this is a very basic pickup combo that everyone has, so you'll end up sounding kind of generic and like everyone else.
Captain Jack ®
2011-07-28 13:48:41 UTC
I play my Les Paul in C# standard, with stock humbuckers and 9's. I have no problem with clarity at Tony Iommi distortion levels. That said, I doubt it's your pickups. The problem likely lies in either your strings or your wiring.



Your strings were already on the guitar when you started tuning so they are already fatigued beyond being tuned this low. If they have been on the guitar for a while, they are also have residue, which can also contribute to this problem. Also, your strings may be too heavy. I had experimented a lot with getting a good sound in the C# standard tuning and have found that 9's sound the best. Despite what many contemporaries say, Tony Iommi, who pioneered radical down tuning, almost always plays with 9's.



If not, are you sure that your wiring is correct? If restringing does not solve the problem, then your pickups may be out of phase. If your pickups are equipped with a phase switch, you may have been playing in the wrong position, as it wouldn't be as evident the higher the tuning. If you have replaced the stock pickups, I would have your wiring checked by a professional. If you had one install the pickups, I would take it to a different tech.



xx


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